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Post  Guest on Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:16 pm

This is something that we must maybe start discussing if we want to carry on racing Sarda rules in the 17.5 and 13.5 classes. My opinion is that if we change these 2 Sarda classes we might as well change clubstock to give you a stepping stone when moving to the "faster" classes.
Please give some feedback. I know clubstock is not a Sarda class anymore but who knows what the future brings.

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Post  ototw on Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:43 pm

Ray wrote:This is something that we must maybe start discussing if we want to carry on racing Sarda rules in the 17.5 and 13.5 classes. My opinion is that if we change these 2 Sarda classes we might as well change clubstock to give you a stepping stone when moving to the "faster" classes.
Please give some feedback. I know clubstock is not a Sarda class anymore but who knows what the future brings.

Did SARDA change a rule ?

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Post  Guest on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:03 am

Not yet but its on the agenda. The meeting is tomorrow so we should get feedback soon.

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Post  ototw on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:09 pm

This rule going to slow faster cars down, as tyre size will be standard, no cutting of foams, so as I see it, they want the cars to be more equal in speed, in some classes a controlled brushless motor are going to be used, whats SARDA's point ?

So the 17,5T and 13T classes will become gloryfied TT01 cars,all the same,wonder if they not taking the fun out of racing now.

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Post  Guest on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:15 pm

They are trying to change things to fall in with the other changes (or mistakes) they made. On the other side, you will be surprised how quick a car can be on rubber tyres. Google the Thailand world champs a mains on youtube. Its brilliant. I am not agreeing, just putting it out there.


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Post  ototw on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:20 pm

Yes,but why did we cut foams then to get a faster car,I just think here is more to the SARDA idea of change than what we know,but its for them to decide,I will think the way I do,

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Post  Guest on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:29 pm

That is once again why hobbyshop owners and importers should not be on the Sarda committee. You know how I feel about this.

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Post  ototw on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:34 pm

Its all about money,dis hoe ek dit sien,the survival of the fittest

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Post  ototw on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:40 pm

At the end of the day,DRCCC still has the best track in the country,,,,seen from all aspects,,,,so SARDA can try to change alot,but not everything.

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Post  Guest on Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:01 am

I agree. Classes like clubstock Sarda threw out unfortunately so we can make our own rules. Its just handy to have a guideline. It helps to enforce the rules in the longrun.
With 17.5 and 13.5 we will have to change to rubber when they do I suppose. Your whole car's setup will be different as well as the driving style. Their are pluses running on rubber but let's see what happens after the rule changes if their is any.

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Post  2quick on Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:19 am

Ray wrote:This is something that we must maybe start discussing if we want to carry on racing Sarda rules in the 17.5 and 13.5 classes. My opinion is that if we change these 2 Sarda classes we might as well change clubstock to give you a stepping stone when moving to the "faster" classes.
Please give some feedback. I know clubstock is not a Sarda class anymore but who knows what the future brings.

The changes for 2012 is as follows listed on SARDA Forum
1.all touring classes to run on rubber
2.minimum weight reduced to 1380grams
3.tyre quantity limit of 3 sets per event for mod and 2 sets for the other 3 touring classes
4.allow indoor tracks to host events

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Post  Guest on Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:47 pm

Thanks Mr Orka.

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Post  Tcab on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:22 pm

Is there a limitation on tyres? How will it be controlled? Will tyres be supplied like in fwd?

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Post  Bossman on Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:05 am

How are we gonna control the count i can not go to every guy and take his tyres and leave him with only 2 sets per class wht happens if his 17.5 turn breaks and he uses that tyres for 19 turn just intrested.

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Post  2quick on Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:57 am

Bossman wrote:How are we gonna control the count i can not go to every guy and take his tyres and leave him with only 2 sets per class wht happens if his 17.5 turn breaks and he uses that tyres for 19 turn just intrested.

This rule only applies to National events, the same as with the FWD class, but I think instead of handing out tyres, they will surely just mark the tyres you want to use for the event as not everyone uses the same tyres.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:44 pm

Good question Bosman and good answer 2quick. I am just worried that they use a controlled tyre at nationals like they do with the fwd. It will be a bit of a raw deal because we do club events on a tyre and then have to do setup all over for nationals. I am sure they thought it through and lets hope it's an open minded decision.

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Post  2quick on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:03 am

Ray wrote:Good question Bosman and good answer 2quick. I am just worried that they use a controlled tyre at nationals like they do with the fwd. It will be a bit of a raw deal because we do club events on a tyre and then have to do setup all over for nationals. I am sure they thought it through and lets hope it's an open minded decision.

We can always ask the SARDA exec that always rag on this forum, but obviously now he is chatting in the upper class forums...... lol! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  ototw on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:32 am

Why do we follow Sarda Rules,as it appear that we are not interested to host a National, can't we follow the rules with a governing body where hobbyshop owners are not on the ruling commitee and let we grow our club.

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Post  ototw on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:40 am

2quick wrote:
Ray wrote:Good question Bosman and good answer 2quick. I am just worried that they use a controlled tyre at nationals like they do with the fwd. It will be a bit of a raw deal because we do club events on a tyre and then have to do setup all over for nationals. I am sure they thought it through and lets hope it's an open minded decision.

We can always ask the SARDA exec that always rag on this forum, but obviously now he is chatting in the upper class forums...... lol! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

@ 2 Quick, its time to stand up,its time to make club decissions,as it is,request came that we should host a national----why ??,,,we have a perfect racetrack,one of the best in the country,why should these rules affect us.


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Post  2quick on Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:55 am

ototw wrote:
2quick wrote:
Ray wrote:Good question Bosman and good answer 2quick. I am just worried that they use a controlled tyre at nationals like they do with the fwd. It will be a bit of a raw deal because we do club events on a tyre and then have to do setup all over for nationals. I am sure they thought it through and lets hope it's an open minded decision.

We can always ask the SARDA exec that always rag on this forum, but obviously now he is chatting in the upper class forums...... lol! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

@ 2 Quick, its time to stand up,its time to make club decissions,as it is,request came that we should host a national----why ??,,,we have a perfect racetrack,one of the best in the country,why should these rules affect us.

I agree to some extend and disagree to some extend. If one wants to stand up, then do it when and where it counts. I enjoy racing foams, but we have to move up with the times seeing that we are always behind other countries. Any rule suggestion can be made at club level I reckon, but what is it going to benefit one that wants to attend a national event. No experience with rubber tyres and car setup, totally different from foam tyres. Hosting a national is not a problem if one has the man power to do all the work. It takes a bit of strategic planning and effort and it will be very difficult to host a national event and still compete as a club member. There is hardly enough volunteers to run the AMB system on a race day. On a positive note, it can be done, the rule changes and hosting a national event, if we apply our minds and stand and work together and live in harmony. I speak from my personal capacity.

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Post  ototw on Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:13 pm

@ 2 quick ---you placed a very positive note and thanks for u're input.

I've said how I feel..let others comment too.............!

And what will be,,,,will be,,,?

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Post  Bossman on Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:16 pm

ototw wrote:@ 2 quick ---you placed a very positive note and thanks for u're input.

I've said how I feel..let others comment too.............!

And what will be,,,,will be,,,?
I agree with you all problem is our marshling is pathetic at the moment everybody wants to race but not be involved i say untill such time that our club works as a unity we cant even think of a national we implement rules and the members disobey them so wht do we do pls give suggestions?????????????????

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:07 pm

I would love all club members make use of this forum. It will make life so much easier for all. Now that we dont post results and times here, a lot of people stopped bothering to even log in.
I agree with what is said by everyone even though it sounds like I am devided into 2. I think 13.5 and 17.5 will have to change but the other classes should remain the same. Even anything goes! That means, the only people effected will be the 2 mentioned classes.
Thanks for everyones constructive inputs thus far.

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Post  ototw on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:39 pm

Bossman wrote:
ototw wrote:@ 2 quick ---you placed a very positive note and thanks for u're input.

I've said how I feel..let others comment too.............!

And what will be,,,,will be,,,?
I agree with you all problem is our marshling is pathetic at the moment everybody wants to race but not be involved i say untill such time that our club works as a unity we cant even think of a national we implement rules and the members disobey them so wht do we do pls give suggestions?????????????????

When I've read this, a quick thought of my childhood days ran through my mind,remember the days where we were playing cricket in the park,everyone want to either bowl or bat,but when you have to field,then you are no-where,,so it come from young days.

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:48 pm

ototw wrote:
Bossman wrote:
ototw wrote:@ 2 quick ---you placed a very positive note and thanks for u're input.

I've said how I feel..let others comment too.............!

And what will be,,,,will be,,,?
I agree with you all problem is our marshling is pathetic at the moment everybody wants to race but not be involved i say untill such time that our club works as a unity we cant even think of a national we implement rules and the members disobey them so wht do we do pls give suggestions?????????????????

When I've read this, a quick thought of my childhood days ran through my mind,remember the days where we were playing cricket in the park,everyone want to either bowl or bat,but when you have to field,then you are no-where,,so it come from young days.

lol! lol! lol! good point

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